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Sunday 27 September 2015

Ethan Hawke

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Ethan Hawke, in full Ethan Green Hawke   (born November 6, 1970, Austin,Texas, U.S.), American actor, director, and novelist known for his versatility.
Hawke, who was raised in New Jersey, began acting while in high school and at age 15 made his film debut in Explorers (1985), playing a teenager who builds a spaceship. In 1988 he enrolled in Carnegie Mellon University to study drama but dropped out after a few months to take a role as a prep school student in Dead Poets Society (1989). The film, which also starred Robin Williams as a charismatic English teacher, was a critical success. Hawke subsequently worked regularly, and by age 25 he had starred in 15 motion pictures, including White Fang (1991), an adaptation of Jack London’s novel; Alive (1993), a drama based on the true story of a Uruguayan rugby team’s fight for survival after its plane crashes in the Andes Mountains; and Reality Bites (1994), which centred on a group of twentysomethings trying to figure out what they want to do with their lives after college.
In 1995 Hawke starred in Richard Linklater’s romantic drama Before Sunrise, which follows two tourists who meet on a train and spend a day together. Three years later he starred opposite Uma Thurman in the sci-fi thriller Gattaca; the couple married in 1998 and divorced in 2004. Hawke’s other films in the 1990s include Great Expectations (1998), a modern take on the classic novel by Charles Dickens; Linklater’s The Newton Boys (1998), about the adventures of a gang of bank robbers in 1920s Texas; and Snow Falling on Cedars (1999), a love story set against the backdrop of Japanese-American internment during World War II. He then starred as the title character in Hamlet (2000), a modern adaptation of the Shakespeare play.
In 2001 Hawke made his directorial debut with Chelsea Walls, about the people who live at the infamous Chelsea Hotel in New York City. That year he starred opposite Denzel Washington in the crime drama Training Day, directed by Antoine Fuqua. Hawke’s performance as a police officer new to a corrupt narcotics squad earned him his first Academy Award nomination. He continued to collaborate with Linklater in the chamber piece Tape (2001), the ensemble-based Fast Food Nation (2006), and theBefore Sunrise sequels Before Sunset (2004) and Before Midnight (2013), both of which he cowrote; the two screenplays netted him Oscar nominations. He also played the father in Linklater’s coming-of-age drama Boyhood (2014), which was shot over a period of 12 years. For his performance, Hawke earned an Academy Award nomination for best supporting actor. His other screen credits include Sidney Lumet’s Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead (2007), Fuqua’s Brooklyn’s Finest (2009), and the unconventional family drama 10,000 Saints (2015). Hawke also was featured in the horror moviesDaybreakers (2009), Sinister (2012), and The Purge (2013).
While maintaining his career in film, Hawke worked extensively in the theatre. He cofounded theMalaparte Theater Company in New York City in 1991, and he made his Broadway debut in Anton Chekhov’s The Seagull a year later. After Malaparte dissolved in 2000, Hawke returned to Broadway in Henry IV (2003) and in Tom Stoppard’s sprawling The Coast of Utopia (2006); his performance in the latter as Russian revolutionary Mikhail Bakunin earned him a Tony Award nomination for best featured actor. He also acted in Off-Broadway productions of plays by Chekhov, Sam Shepard, and David Rabe and won an Obie Award for his portrayal of an ex-Marine contending with his dysfunctional family inBlood from a Stone (2011). In 2009 Hawke toured internationally in productions of The Cherry Orchard and The Winter’s Tale that were directed by Sam Mendes. His own directorial efforts for the stage include Things We Want (2007), Shepard’s A Lie of the Mind (2010), and Clive (2013). Hawke also directed the documentary Seymour: An Introduction (2014), about pianist Seymour Bernstein.
In addition, Hawke was the author of the novels The Hottest State (1996; film 2006) and Ash Wednesday(2002).
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Ethan Hawke Talks PREDESTINATION With WAMG

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Ethan Hawke’s latest film PREDESTINATION has quite a bit of buzz surrounding it, including several wins at the Toronto After Dark Film Festival. In celebration of the film opening in theaters and On Demand this Friday, WAMG sat down with Hawke in a small roundtable discussion to talk about his latest film, BOYHOOD, and time-travel. Check it out below.
PREDESTINATION chronicles the life of a Temporal Agent (Ethan Hawke) sent on an intricate series of time-travel journeys designed to prevent future killers from committing their crimes. Now, on his final assignment, the Agent must stop the one criminal that has eluded him throughout time and prevent a devastating attack in which thousands of lives will be lost.
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What were your first thoughts when you read this script?
Ethan Hawke : I need to read it again. I’ve never had that feeling. First of all I wasn’t even sure what part they were offering me. ‘Am I the bartender or am I the other guy? Or wait is he a guy?’ That aspect of it was really fun. Even though I didn’t get it I knew I wanted to be involved with it because it was just so smart. It reminded me a little bit about that movie BRAZIL. You know when BRAZIL ends and you say, ‘What the hell just happened?’ But I enjoyed it. Most movies are so obvious anyway. Particularly for a person that has been making movies for a long time. I spend my life reading scripts so I get ahead of them all the time. “Oh, she dropped the pen. Oh, I get it. Forty pages now and they’ll find the pen and that’s how they’ll know.’ It gets so tedious. This I had no idea what was happening. And yet the language was so good and the ideas were so interesting. I love DAYBREAKERS too.
Were you a fan of the time travel movies in general? Do you have a favorite?
Ethan Hawke : My favorite is probably all those old ‘Twilight Zone’ episodes. They are so good and so well shot. A lot of them have to do with time travel. Somebody finds themselves out of time or in a new time. I always found them so interesting and in a way when I read this I thought, ‘You know what? This could be is a feature length of the greatest ‘The Twilight Zone’ episode ever,’ where you are like ‘Wait, what?’ Because ‘The Twilight Zone’ always had that great thing where there is some twist at the end where you are like, ‘oh they are on a different planet.’ I think those episodes from Twilight are some of the best things ever.
If you could time travel where would you go?
Ethan Hawke : I think the first thing that I would do is want to go visit my kids when they are older.
The future?
Ethan Hawke : I would want to go to the future. I want to see how they did. That would be the thing that most interests me. The past isn’t that interesting to me.
I feel like this film is so completely different to anything you have done in the past. What attracted you to it?
Ethan Hawke : Peter Michael. In a way this could be a good double feature with GATTACA. They are different but they fall into the kind of science fiction which is my favorite where they make you think. People often hear science fiction they picture STAR WARS or ray guns. I like the science fiction that gives you an excuse to talk about really sophisticated ideas. This movie is making a case for the inner connectedness of man or the masculine feminine side of every self, that we all are two halves of one masculine feminine identify and that it’s actually at war with itself through space and time. Hunting itself and until it stops hunting itself there is going to be violence. You can make a strong case that, that’s what that movie is about.
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What is the difference in your performance for something like this where the theme is allegory and where those philosophical ideas are sub-text, verses something like the before trilogy where it is all text and what is begin said between the characters?
Ethan Hawke : That’s a good question. The work I have done with Linklater is naturalism too at an extreme degree. Those movies almost forfeit plot. There almost is no plot. The event of the movie is time. What time does to a family and what time does to romantic love. Time is the event. Where as a movie like PREDESTINATION there is a plot. This happens and then that happens so it becomes more straight forward story telling. Therefore, they are each hard in their own way. My work with Rick really asks me to kind of blur the line between character and performer and create a full completion of imagination so you think those people exist. In this its really more about you are the actor but your inner workings are not as important as the plot. You are part of a story that is being told so you have to see yourself as a servant to the story. It’s not interesting how my character feels about any given event if it doesn’t help tell the story. If I decide that my character is actually scared of driving, it doesn’t really help. Where as if I wanted to something like that in boyhood it’s interesting. All that stuff just helps.
You say you want to go to the future to see your kids grow up. How does fatherhood change you?
Ethan Hawke : Very hard to say anything worth reading about. Parenthood is part of life. It’s a little bit like friendship and love. All those big subjects. Fatherhood is definitely a part of who I am now. I have four kids so it’s just the context in which I see everything. The fun of working on boy hood was that there was a place to put all that thinking. I help Lorelei’s baby so I get to do scenes with her. It’s an amazing miracle in a way. What’s wonderful about it is that it makes you constantly meditate on how wonderful it is to be alive. We had this joke on set that the ad line for the movie should be ‘PREDESTINATION, go fuck yourself!’  In a lot of the buddhist theories they say if we are all traveling through time and we have all been reincarnated as our mother and each others father then we actually were our own mother at some point. We are all one living organism. When you look at parenthood from that context it’s kind of an illusion that we are ethos persons parent. We are actually part of a culture. We are part of a time period we live in. We don’t know whats happening with the planet. There is a larger thing at work. That’s what I love about science fiction. It let’s you talk about those ideas without talking about religion. Where people have those knee jerk things where ‘I’m Christian so I don’t think about that or I’m Muslim so I don’t think about that.’ It lets you just think about the idea of it.
What was your collaboration with Sarah Snook like?
Ethan Hawke : It’s hard to talk about without ruining it. When I did GATTACA one of the great pleasures with that movie was being a part of Jude Law’s performance. It was amazing. I knew this guy was the real deal and that he is going to be around forever. I felt that way about Sarah. So confident and so cool. In fact this whole movie hinges on her being brilliant. It has to be an unknown actress. It would be one thing if it was Kate Winslet, but if it was Kate Winslet the twist of the movie would be ruined and you would just watch her act as appose to falling into the story which is what Sarah gave us. I knew we had to be symbiotic but what was hard about it was to both be true to it but not give it away. That was the weird little dance. If we were too cute with it then everybody would know what was up. That’s what I mean by a lot of what we are doing is story telling. At first glance that first scene is a bartender talking to a young man walking into a bar. Well watch the movie a second time and its a different scene. You say no wait, he’s meeting himself. There is something almost moving about it. But if I play that too much the first time you watch it you will get it. I can’t let you get it the first time but I have to be true to it so that the second you get it and it becomes more interesting. This is one of the few movies that it really is better the second time you see it.
Did you have to talk with Sarah on how to talk manly and mimic you?
Ethan Hawke : Yes and no. We worked on the parts and go to play those scenes with each other. I had to do the scenes with myself at the end of the movie. I worked on those scenes with Sarah where she got to do it and I got to do the scene that she had to do with herself. She’s funny and she’s smart and she watched movies of me when I was that age. It was also not about us imitating each other but finding a larger truth to who that fictional person is.
How many times have you seen this movie?
Ethan Hawke : Well I feel like I have seen it a thousand times because I worked on it but I have only seen it twice.
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Do you enjoy watching yourself on film… and going back to the older films?
Ethan Hawke : I don’t enjoy it or not enjoy it. It’s not something I do. Hopefully people will like this movie and twelve years from now I’ll see fifteen minutes of it on a television one night or someone will be doing a retrospective about the Spierigs and I’ll be there and i’ll see a part of it. Mostly I enjoy going to film festivals and seeing them with an audience for the first time. To be at the BOYHOOD screening when nobody knew that the movie really took place over twelve years. Now when people go see it they heard that. When it showed it was just an untitled Richard Linklater film and you felt the audience say ‘Wow, this kid is growing up before our eyes.’ You felt the penny drop and that can never happen again. I like seeing the DP’s (Director of Photography) work because you get so involved with it on the day. It’s funny to see which take they picked. Simple little stuff like that. ‘Oh, he went that way. I liked it better the other way.’ That aspect of watching it is fun. It’s moving for me to see scenes with River Pheonix now or Philip Seymour Hoffman. Those things are all changes over time. All of a sudden that scene in BEFORE THE DEVIL KNOWS YOU’RE DEAD means something else to me. I didn’t know that would be the last time I would work with Phil. I thought it would be the first time.
In BOYHOOD you get to see yourself 10 to 12 years ago and get to see yourself change. Over those years how do you feel you have changed? Over the next 10 to 12 years what do you want to become?
Ethan Hawke : I wish I could know what I could learn ten years from now already so I didn’t have to learn it. I’m always amazed at how much stays the same. The weird thing to me about BEFORE MIDNIGHT for example and when you watch it in relationship to BEFORE SUNRISE, which was shot eighteen years earlier, how much of the character just stays the same. I mean the face is falling apart and all that stuff but the essence of the person is the same. We learn things and I feel we get better at showing our true self or we get worse at it. We either get cleaner or more twisted and I think the people that age the best are the people who kind of untwist themselves the best and the people who suffer the most get more and more twisted. Youth always covers up a lot of problems because its attractive and fun and then as you get older things get revealed.
You were talking about how the characters motions need to be in service with the plot. What do you do to make sure that human element is still present? 
Ethan Hawke : That’s being an actor. Sometimes I’ll be on a set and some actors complain saying ‘This line isn’t any good.’ You have to make it good. That’s why you are being paid. Our job is to infuse humanity in many frames as possible. That’s why it is so hard to act well in a TV show because the plot is ruling everything. ‘She found the clue. Who did it? He did it. She did it.’ There is no time to be human. If you have ever seen Vincent D’onofrio in ‘Law & Order : Criminal Intent,’ he could do it. There is all this plot yet there is human being in the middle of it. The best actors can do that. I always joke when people ask ‘Is it challenging?’ It’s never challenging to work with a good director on a great script. People say Daniel Day Lewis is great in LINCOLN. Yeah he was. He better be. It’s hard to be good in an episode of ‘Matlock.’ If you can’t be good with Tony Christian and Spielberg and those guys then you suck.
BOYHOOD got named film of the year by New York Film Critics Circle Awards. There is a lot of Oscar buzz about it as well. What is your take on that?
Ethan Hawke : I’m just in shock. I made eight movies with Rick and I loved them all. I believe in him completely and I am so happy that people are finally understanding that this is a really serious film maker of this time period. He is the most humble guy. He is so down to earth and fun to be with and he celebrates so many other people. He has championed so many young film makers. I think of his nineteen movies seventeen of them are really great. The other two are damn good. He’s really special. But I still can’t believe. I thought WAKING LIFE was genius but nobody cared about it. The before trilogies were my favorite things that happened to me and only three people saw that movie. It’s been wonderful that this movie has connected with people.
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The Good, the Bad and the Murky in the Drone Thriller ‘Good Kill’

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Ethan Hawke as drone pilot Tom Egan in the film "Good Kill."
Ethan Hawke as drone pilot Tom Egan in the film "Good Kill."
By Paul D. Shinkman
Sitting in a posh suite of a boutique hotel in Washington's fashionable Georgetown neighborhood, with at least a day's worth of room service trays balanced on an ornate coffee table, film director Andrew Niccol readily admits the Department of Defense opted out of cooperating on his new film "Good Kill," which depicts his interpretation of the strife faced by modern drone pilots. The "period piece," as he quips, is set during the height of drone warfare in 2010 and is not meant to be a documentary, but rather a medium to jump-start what he considers an overdue public conversation on unmanned warfare.
Ethan Hawke, the star of the film, interjects.
"Whenever you guys say 'DOD,' I know you're thinking 'Department of Defense,' but I always think 'Day Out of Days,'" Hawke says, grinning through two-day stubble as he reclines on a cushioned couch with his tie loosened. He describes the staple Hollywood document that lays out a movie's production schedule and is given to actors, producers and crews. "I'm like, 'Why is he talking about the Day Out of Days?'"
It's a perfect moment of candor to explain how the pair, who previously teamed up on the dystopian drama "Gattaca," view their latest work. It is easy for those ensconced in national security and foreign affairs to forget perhaps how little the public knows about terms like "unmanned aerial vehicle" or "remotely piloted aircraft" – or even that the U.S. remains at war in Afghanistan after 14 years and through the CIA has expanded the post-Sept. 11 hunt for al-Qaida into tenuously legal battles in Pakistan and Yemen.
Air Interdiction Agent Will Brazelton from U.S. Office of Air and Marine, pilots Predator drone surveillance flights from a flight operations center near the Mexican border on March 7, 2013, at Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Ariz.
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"You'd be surprised how little knowledge there is out in the public at large about exactly how a drone strike happens, which we've never seen," Niccol explains. "And also the public has no idea about the effect it's having on the people who are performing the strikes.
"We've never had this type of soldier before."
Hawke admits that before beginning research for the movie he didn't know what a drone was nor how they operate generally, let alone in the midst of an active battlefield. Two years ago, he wouldn't have known enough to have an opinion, or even to ask a question.
"There's no doubt that the drone program is an excellent and efficient and powerful tool. The question is how we use it," he says. "The atomic bomb was dropped long before the public had a real meditative thought about whether that was a wise decision or not. That happened, and we've spent years processing that it happened."
The two believe their latest movie will help the average citizen better understand what it's like to serve as a "virtual warrior." It depicts a former F-16 fighter pilot who traded in yet another combat tour to instead accept a posting to Creech Air Force Base, an outpost within Las Vegas' neon halo from which he leads a team flying surveillance and attack drones over Afghanistan and other faraway battlefields. The character can see his family each day, though the nature of his work puts a strain on his marriage. His commander plays the de facto narrator, constantly griping to his subordinates about his own misgivings regarding drone operations as a way to convince the audience that they, too, should criticize what's happening on the screen.
Ethan Hawke as Tom Egan and Bruce Greenwood as Jack Johns in "Good Kill."
Ethan Hawke as Tom Egan and Bruce Greenwood as Jack Johns in "Good Kill."
The movie gets a lot of things right, including its depiction of "signature strikes," or drone attacks that are justified only by a target's pattern of action and not his or her specific identity. President Barack Obama and CIA Director John Brennan have hinted that the criteria for a kill may be strengthened, though the revelation last month that the U.S. had accidentally killed two Western hostages, including one American, in a strike confirmed the former rationale was in place as recently as January.
"Good Kill" also accurately depicts some of the stresses facing drone pilots, who may spend hours diligently observing a potential enemy hideout to glean intelligence. They might, as depicted in the movie, have to watch a combatant rape a woman, but because that doesn't pertain to their rules of engagement, they would not be able to do anything about it.
And unlike their deployed counterparts who remain in a wartime mindset around the clock, these fighters may just minutes later be standing in their backyards barbecuing with friends, unable to tell their spouses the details of what they experienced at work.
There are, however, some glaring holes in the content of the movie, according to Air Force sources. And they extend beyond the usual Hollywood depictions of the military that invariably cause veterans to cringe. (It would be incredibly rare for an Air Force pilot to land on a Navy vessel, for example, as Hawke's character reminisces about at one point, let alone for one to perform a night landing on an aircraft carrier in an F-16, which is not designed to be compatible with American carriers. And despite the deeply rooted wishes of many jet jockeys who spoke with U.S. News, young flyboys cannot take a first date for a flight in the $150 million fighter jet, even if it's January Jones.)
President Barack Obama makes a statement in the Brady Briefing room at the White House on April 23, 2015, in Washington, D.C.
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Primarily, the Air Force rejects the depiction in the movie that most drone pilots eventually doubt the virtues of their work.
"The general public may walk away with the perception that a good percentage, or a significant percentage, suffer from moral injury or [post-traumatic stress disorder] and elevated alcohol use or alcohol abuse," says Wayne Chappelle, a clinical psychologist for the Air Force and a principal adviser to top combat commanders on airmen's mental health. "That's just simply not the case."
Studies Chappelle conducted in 2010 and 2012 are readily available online, as the latest numbers will be later this month. Fewer than 17 percent of drone pilots experienced and expressed cynicism about their jobs in 2010, and that amount had dropped significantly by 2012 following new Air Force initiatives.
It does not appear that the producers of "Good Kill" consulted these studies, Chappelle laments, nor did they make any effort to contact him, he says.
"Yes, there are [remotely piloted aircraft] pilots that do see [post-traumatic stress] in response to some of the missions they have participated in. That's very natural," he says. "But it's not the epidemic, nor is it the crisis that has been previously reported."
There is also a scene in the movie in which Hawke's commander (who perpetually reminds Hawke, and thus the audience, just how terrible his life is) tells a hangar full of young recruits, "Half of you were recruited in malls, because you are a bunch of f------ gamers."
The Air Force says it has never engaged in such recruitment strategies.
Indeed, only 30 percent of current drone operators weren't combat pilots before accepting their new position. The Air Force is trying to get the number of recruits who go straight into drone operations up to about 90 percent of the force, though that remains a faraway goal.
The ethical dilemmas in the movie largely center around the unseen voice of "Langley," the CIA boss who commands the central drone unit via speakerphone to cease recording missions and start engaging in strikes that are tantamount to war crimes. He forces the crew to attack those who appear to be innocent under the justification that the value of killing a nearby target outweighs civilian casualties. And he requests that the crew perform "follow-ups" or "double taps" to attack first responders coming to the scene of a Hellfire missile explosion.
Ethan Hawke and January Jones as Tom and Molly Egan in "Good Kill."
Ethan Hawke and January Jones as Tom and Molly Egan in "Good Kill."
Niccol says all of the strikes in "Good Kill" have occurred in real life, and were based largely on anecdotes from the film's consultants and from information he gleaned from WikiLeaks. He admits, however, that the two primary advisers to the film who reportedly were former Air Force drone pilots wouldn't comment on operations that took place under the purview of the CIA.
Two drone operators who spoke with U.S. News about their experiences say it is not uncommon to be "sheep dipped" out of the normal chain of command and into missions at the behest of the CIA, though the resulting missions are usually more benign than the movie depicts.
All pilots are also trained in the law of armed conflict, international regulations that govern what they are and are not allowed to do behind the throttle and joystick.
"It's always been very clear-cut," says Chris Stiles, a former drone operator for the U.S. Army who retired from the service in 2009. "You can always tell who the enemy combatant is, who is engaging something, and you never engage a target that wasn't fighting. The rules of engagement prevent that. If the target isn't actively engaged, then they usually like to grab them up with a ground component and use them for intelligence."
Drone pilots also are endowed with the right to question orders they believe illegal or unethical, says Air Force Maj. Lewis Pine, who flew B-1 bombers before he was switched over to drone operations from 2006-2013.
"Our folks by all means have the right to speak up and ask for more information," says Pine, who now works for Air Combat Command at Joint Base Langley-Eustis in Virginia. "They have an obligation to raise their hand and ask questions."
Despite its Hollywood stylizing, Hawke insists the movie is not designed to drive a political agenda, but solely to, as Niccol also says, "open the debate."
And if the current state of warfare is any indication, that debate will have plenty of opportunities to unfold.
"There's a conversation that's not happening in a large public way about what the drones are capable of and what the future of them is," Hawke says. "I'll be so curious in 20 years to see what this movie looks like. This is probably the infancy of an unmanned military, whether it's tanks or whether it's full-on robots running into battlefields, whether it's unmanned Humvees operating remotely."
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Ethan Hawke: drugs deal with anxiety, they don't give you talent

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The actor discusses the effect of addiction on artistry while promoting his new Chet Baker biopic at the Toronto film festival

 “I don’t believe that the drugs helped Chet Baker play. I believe that he believed it.” ... Ethan Hawke at the Toronto film festival.

Ethan Hawke talked about the effect of drugs and alcohol on acting while promoting his lead role in a Chet Baker biopic at the Toronto film festival.
The Oscar-nominated star of Training Day spoke about addiction, given the key role it plays in his new drama Born to Be Blue, which premieres at the festival.
“I had a friend who directed Elizabeth Taylor and she had this theory that she was better when she was drunk,” he said. “She wasn’t, it’s just that she was less nervous. She enjoyed it more drunk. Well, guess what? So would I. 
He rejected the claim that drugs have aided Chet Baker and other musicians to further their art. “I don’t believe that the drugs helped Chet Baker play,” he said. “I believe that he believed it. There’s another path to get there. Dizzy Gillespie has a family man and had a huge career and played without any drugs.”
Hawke went on to explain that the entertainment industry often means that struggles with self-belief can turn to addiction.
Ethan Hawke’s as Chet Baker in Born to be Blue.
“The life of people in the arts means you’re at war with your anxiety,” he said. “Amy Winehouse, Chet Baker, Kurt Cobain, they’re self-medicating and the talent is in the essence of them. The drugs are in the way. They think that the drugs unlock the talent but the drugs just deal with the anxiety. They have nothing to do with the talent.”
Born to be Blue is an alternative take on the life of the famous jazz musician, adding fictionalised elements to the story of his life. It’s low budget and Hawke addressed the variety in his career of late which sees him making small titles, such as Boyhood, and genre films like The Purge.
“One, it’s extremely practical,” he said. “If all you do is small indie movies then you go broke so that’s a drag. The other is that I actually have a real love for movies and it isn’t limited to one kind of movie. I’m really proud of Sinister and whether you like the movie or not, I gave something personal of me in the same way that I tried to do with Boyhood.”
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Ethan Hawke Hearts Drone Strikes: ‘Obviously a Huge Step Forward’

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It’s safe to say the actor, who plays an Air Force drone pilot in the new movie ‘Good Kill,’ is breaking with Hollywood liberals on Obama’s controversial program.
Ethan Hawke likes drones. That’s the impression I got, at least, after watching the actor talking about his role as a U.S. Air Force drone pilot in the timely new movieGood Kill, which screened in Washington this week and opens in theaters Friday.
Hawke plays Maj. Thomas Egan, a former F-16 pilot who flew combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, and then reluctantly left the cockpit for a windowless container in the Nevada desert. Now he’s coming apart at the seams, but not because of a moral crisis about killing people from 7,000 miles away. No, Egan is jonesing for the thrill that he got only from risking his life in a fighter jet, zooming over terrorists’ heads on the battlefield. Drones just don’t do it for him.
There’s no speechifying or obvious moralizing from Egan about the ethics, or even the legality, of targeted killing. Egan himself is practically a robot, at least at the start of the film. And like the machines he flies, he is just following orders from more powerful humans. The closest we get to an overt critique of drones is when Egan’s co-pilot, Airman Vera Suarez (played by Zoe Kravitz), joins his team and starts to upset the whole “good kill” vibe by questioning why the Air Force is killing suspected terrorists without knowing their identities—so-called signature strikes the team is ordered to conduct by the CIA. Suarez compares that kind of anonymous killing to what terrorists do.
So when the film finished, I found myself wondering where on the pro/con spectrum Hawke really came down. The big reveal came during the Q&A, moderated by MSNBC’s Chris Matthews (because after watching people get blown up for two hours, apparently we hadn’t suffered enough).
Hawke didn’t need a moderator. And his opinion on whether drones are good or bad honestly surprised me. I think it’s fair to say that the politically liberal position on drone strikes is that they’re more trouble than they’re worth, and that in general we expect Hollywood stars to toe a liberal line. Hawke didn’t.
Instead, he recalled the firebombings of Dresden in World War II and the carpet bombings of Cambodia in the Vietnam War, which, he noted, indiscriminately killed astounding numbers of innocent people. Drones, on the other hand, can precisely aim at one person, or one small group of people, he observed. And though innocents are dying, they’re clearly not dying at the rate of wars past.
“There’s obviously a huge step forward being made,” Hawke said.
Drones: a huge step forward. Having covered targeted killing and the drone program for many years, I’m used to hearing that argument from people on the right of the political spectrum (which, for all I know, maybe Hawke is) and from government officials in order to preserve the United States’ authority to use drones and to justify drone strikes as a humanitarian proposition. Meaning that they comply strictly with the international laws of armed conflict, which require nations to do everything they can to kill only combatants and to minimize collateral damage to civilians. And also that killing by drone is a more humane form of warfare, insofar as war can be humane.
Hawke offered a nuanced critique of the U.S. drone program and the nature of war. With the “great power of drones comes great responsibility,” he said, to use them judiciously, and with restraint. Drones make it easier to project force anywhere, which risks turning the U.S. “into the world police,” he said, asking rhetorically, “Are we setting our country up to be in perpetual war?”
In general we expect Hollywood stars to toe a liberal line. Hawke didn’t.
These are precisely the dilemmas that military leaders, lawmakers, intelligence officials, and the White House have been grappling with ever since the first lethal drone strikes began during the George W. Bush administration. President Obama accelerated the drone program and was the first to kill U.S. citizens who’d joined forces with terrorists. The next president will command a military that is buying more drones than manned planes and is conducting several lethal missions a day in multiple countries around the world—two points the film forcefully makes in an opening scene in which the drone squad commander Lt. Col. Jack Johns (played by Bruce Greenwood) is lecturing a new class of drone pilots about how this war works.
“Drones aren’t going anywhere. In fact, they’re going everywhere,” he says. It’s just one of several pithy and often darkly comic lines that capture the unsettling essence of this new era of conflict. “Don’t ask me if this a just war,” Johns tells his pilots. “It’s just war.”
Andrew Niccol, who wrote, produced, and directed the film, told me in an interview that he didn’t set out to create a polemic. Instead, he wanted to show “two sides to that coin of how precise [drones] can be, and yet you can precisely kill the wrong person.” Sounds like an argument against drones. But it’s not.
“To be anti the drone program is like being anti the Internet,” Niccol said.
That’s probably the least debatable or controversial point the movie makes, and it does so repeatedly. There is an inevitability to drones. And whether they really make good kills isn’t a question the filmmakers tried to answer.
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